whats a good rifle that will make a 1000 yard shot but what kind of scope would you put on it and what would you have to factor in when making this kind of shot
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January 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Funny, my most inexpensive sniper rifle is the best one.
I use a .50 cal Serbu with a "SWFA Super Sniper." The scope is inexpensive ($350 usd with rings), and the gun is faily cheap too ($2400 USD). The most important thing I find is the scope rings. They must have 6 screws on each ring, and use a good thread lock. Also, the ammunition must be match grade (I use Barrett ammo, but there may be better).
With this setup i can hit a regular adult human silhouette at a mile away. Anything closer will guarantee a critical hit. I have done this with laser range finders and coyotes.
I have spent lots of money on my .308 (about $6,000) but this is nothing compared to my .50 cal.
Edit;
Great answer Cam! I just speak from personal experience.
January 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
why do you want to know?
January 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Well, what kind of price range you looking at???
http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_99.aspx chambered in .416 with a Leupold Mark IV 8.5-25x50mm ER/T M1 and the BORS optics computer attached to it.
At a grand you will have to take in account the earth’s rotation (Coriolis Effect), the earth’s curvature, short and long distance wind speeds, humidity, temp. Among other things. It is really amazing what it takes to make a GOOD clean shot at a range like that. A thousand yards is nothing compared to 2 grand but it still takes a good spotter and lots and lots of training to be consistent and good. The guys in the movies make it look a little to easy!
I have spent many a day wishing I had that set-up to shoot at 5 gallon buckets at 1500 yards. If you think the set up is expensive 80 rounds is about 375 bones! It would be an expensive hobby if the army or a testing facility was not supporting your habit ha-ha.
If you want a more affordable route
http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_700/model_700_XCR_tactical_long_range.asp
The rem. model 700 has arguably the best out of box accuracy in an affordable package. For that long of a shot optics are as important or more important the actual rifle I would go with the same scope but without the BORS computer to make it more affordable. I would chamber it in .308 Win but a 1000 yard shot even with the military standard sniper caliber would be a serious stretch for anyone but the most experienced shooters. The .300 win gives you more speed and less drop at that range but you pay for that with the extra recoil giving you slower reacquisition of your target among other problems.
With the .308 Win I would match and hand load all my rounds to ensure consistency of the rounds which is also one of the most important aspects of a long range shot like that!
This is a pretty broad question though, so I will stop there before I start rambling and possibly sounding like more of an idiot haha!
January 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
First of all, there is no such thing as a sniper rifle!
Any rifle in the hands of a trained marksman, aka sniper, is a sniper’s rifle and will get the job done better than most of us can shoot.
In general, for a dedicated long range target rifle, you will be better off having it built from component parts, not with a factory rifle. Build your rifle chambered in 308 Winchester. The velocity is not as high as a .300 WinMag, nor is the caliber as large as a .338 WinMag or Lapua, but it will be gentler on your shoulder and is quite capable of amazing accuracy out to 1,000 yards and beyond.
To be able to consistently make 1,000 yard shots requires four major factors, and a ton of smaller factors. I’ll hit on the four biggest factors. For the rest, there are several good training manuals and schools of instruction available.
1. – Practice, practice, practice, practice, and lots more practice. There is no substitute for lots of trigger time. To do this economically, you will need to learn to reload your own ammunition. Luckily this is also the best way to acquire ammunition that is tuned to suit your rifle.
2. – Memorize the ballistics table for your chosen cartridge and load. Know to the inch the amount of rise and drop for any range between 3 feet and 1500 yards. Be able to instantly adjust your scope for elevation without sighting shots or estimation.
3. – Learn to accurately estimate range. When you are shooting long range, a mis-estimate of 50 yards can make your bullet fall ten feet short. Sure, you can spend big bucks on range finders, but there is no assurance that the batteries won’t die at a vital moment. Being able to accurately judge the range by eye can mean difference between hitting your target, and a clean miss, or even worse, a wounding shot. Accurate range estimation is the most difficult talent to acquire. In honesty, if the range gets much past 300 yards, I need a range finder, but I don’t do much shooting beyond 300 yards so that is OK for me.
4. – Memorize the wind drift tables for your cartridge and load, and become expert in reading the wind. As Jack O’Connor used to say, "Reading the wind separates the Men Wind Dopers from the Boy Wind Dopers." And failure to allow for wind drift will cause you to miss targets, even if your elevation is dead on.
If you want to learn the Sniper’s Art to shoot men, enlist in the US Army or the US Marines. They have some of the best marksmanship training in the world.
If you want to learn long range shooting to hunt, forget it. There are too many chances to wound and loose game when you are shooting at extreme range. It will be far better to learn to hunt. To get as close as you can and then crawl 50 yards closer. I don’t know of an ethical hunter who’s goal is not to bring home the buck with powder burns on his hide.
Doc
January 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
HI…. No one can give you all the info you need to know on this forum…. I should point out 1000 yard rifles are usualy custom built so to get a ready to go model might be difficult or expensive…. Check out the below links… There is a huge amount of helpful information there….
January 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
308 or 30-06 equipped with a 20 power Target scope.* Factor in wind drift.*
January 16th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
The best sniper rifle is the Barrett 82A1/M107 .50 Caliber Special Application Scoped Rifle SASR Long Range Sniper Rifle (LRSR).