Guns given to Iraq forces are missing
Pentagon can’t find 190,000 rifles, pistols – some fear they may be in insurgents’ hands
Glenn Kessler, Washington Post

Monday, August 6, 2007

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(08-06) 04:00 PDT Washington — The Pentagon has lost track of about 190,000 AK-47 assault rifles and pistols given to Iraqi security forces in 2004 and 2005, according to a new government report, raising fears that some of those weapons have fallen into the hands of insurgents fighting U.S. forces in Iraq.

The report from the Government Accountability Office indicates that U.S. military officials do not know what happened to 30 percent of the weapons the United States distributed to Iraqi forces from 2004 through early this year as part of an effort to train and equip the troops. The highest previous estimate of unaccounted-for weapons was 14,000, in a report issued last year by the inspector general for Iraq reconstruction.

The United States has spent .2 billion trying to develop Iraqi security forces since 2003, the GAO said, including at least .8 billion to buy and deliver equipment. But the GAO said weapons distribution was haphazard and rushed and failed to follow established procedures, particularly from 2004 to 2005, when security training was led by Gen. David Petraeus, who now commands all U.S. forces in Iraq.

The Pentagon did not dispute the GAO findings, saying it has launched its own investigation and indicating it is working to improve tracking. Although controls have been tightened since 2005, the inability of the United States to track weapons with tools such as serial numbers makes it nearly impossible for the U.S. military to know whether it is battling an enemy equipped by U.S. taxpayers.

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K I like military type rifles especially ones that use 7.62 ammo (Ak-47, Sks, FN FAL mosin nagant etc.) I hunt deer and was wondering what rifle like this has large enough ammunition for deer. 7.62 would be alright except i need more range than most of these rifles offer. I read somewhere that the FAL comes in .308 but im not a big fan of .308. the wwii springfield rifle is 30-06 which some people i know like for deer. any suggestions would be awesome thanx.

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It need to be less than 700$
and be pretty easy to clean
I was thinking m-16, ar-15, or ak-47.

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I was wondering which rifle is louder, the M4 Carbine firing M855A1 5.56x45mmo or AK-47 in 7.62×39? Which sounds louder off in the distance? And don’t they each have a distinctive crack sound to them too?

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All US "aid" to 3rd World is just US military industrial congressional complex weapons (turn on your TV to look at them). US working class tax coffers pay US richclass owned military industrial congressional complex to produce them — and US richclass gets richer and richer.

"…it’s tough to see how the United States will gain the sympathy of Egyptian protesters fighting a security apparatus that has worked closely with American counterparts and may be using U.S. equipment to repress them."

(I like those words "may be" — isn’t that cute?)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110129/ap_on_re_us/us_us_egypt_analysis

Gee, I wonder how McDonnell Douglas profits report this quarter? And all the others?

There’s been some talk in the US about cutting aid to 3rd World countries, and the public presses that this is a good idea. Now that you finally know what has long been obvious to any with a brain, that all US aid is just US corporate richclass scam on US working class — don’t you wanna change your mind about cutting that 3rd World aid? I mean, you don’t wanna come off as not willing to sacrifice all your blood and guts(and 3rd World impoverished) to make US richclass richer, do you?

How do oppressed Egyptians feel about the US while Egyptian government abuses them with US military weapons?
@Sorry, never saw an AK-47 tank before.

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I was wondering which rifle is louder, the M4 Carbine firing M855A1 5.56x45mmo or AK-47 in 7.62×39? Which sounds louder off in the distance? And don’t they each have a distinctive crack sound to them too?

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I bought an AK-47 online and had it sent to an import supporting firearms dealer for transfer. I received conditional proceed and in turn they decided to deny the conditional proceed. They hid my constitutional right to appeal any denial and told me I’d never see my gun again. One girl said they might’ve sold it without my permission which is against the law. They charge 100$ for assault rifle transfers when the law states the most you can charge is 10$ for background check and I think up to about 20$ for the transfer fee itself. After threatening to press charges they suddenly found their appeal documentation and I was approved by the FBI and NICS. Now they will not respond to any contact and try to hang up on me every time I call. They have a posted storage fee of .50/day for 60 days and then afterwards they consider it abandoned. A firearms appeal takes about 3 months due to the volume level of appeals. How can I get my gun, and where is the law? I’ve reported this to every law enforcement agency from the deputy down the road to the Illuminati and nobody has done a thing. I’d also like to know why these things aren’t known and enforced in the state of Tennessee, and why nobody has been arrested. The cops have lied to me for nearly 6 months now saying I can’t press charges on someone who has pressed misdemeanor charges on me, and he’s committing every felony known to man from sexual attacks, manipulation of mentally handicapped, grand larceny and everything below it. His name is Eddie Jones and two officers arbitrarily filled out a police report against me after three incidents of aggrivated assault on myself with no arrests. They also used an alias which by law removes all protective rights after the initial imprisonment of them, which hasn’t happened yet. The officers names are Officer Harris, and Danny Lester. When trying to recover the 911 recordings I was completely and blatantly misdirected by a Sherriff of the Cumberland County Justice Center, and eventually told that they could not be found due to the fact that a keyword search would bog down their communications centers servers. I’m a computer technician and I know if a system has the ability, it’s able. My public defender is now off the case and I served 8 days in jail, only to be jailed another 10 days, assigned a public defender who has dropped out of the case even though it’s continued for 6 months, in which it will be dismissed. I have no convictions or charges on my records besides this one. I can’t even join the military. The district attorneys office in Crossville, TN shredded criminal evidence regarding long term and short term stalking. Stalking of 4 months to 7 years….The TBI fields have lost the original copys and their office here in crossville is unoperational, which is also against the law. When talking to an Official at the Justice Center, Officer Harris barged in and stared over me, in which I told the Official that was him. Every officer and official I’ve talked to is completely and blatantly unresponsive and ignorant. Many, many, many people should be in prison by now and nobody has done a damn thing. I just want these charges gone, my stuff back, and my gun. Someone leave this message on here until some FBI agent runs over it and throws up, or do what you can to help…
No I have a domestic assault arrest now and it’s being dismissed in 6 months, over pushing a known felon off of me twice…after he came at me with deadly weapons multiple times and he was never arrested.
"When trying to recover the 911 recordings I was completely and blatantly misdirected by a Sherriff of the Cumberland County Justice Center, and eventually told that they could not be found due to the fact that a keyword search would bog down their communications centers servers."
The 911 center is next door to the Justice Center. This all started by pissing off a former teen usa contestant and the whole town is nothing but a bunch of guppies, much like some of the people on this thread..

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can a assault rifle fire bullets as fast as a sub machine gun.
can all assault rifles fire bullets on full auto and 1 at a time like the ak 47 or m16

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I have the AK-47, the AR-10 (.308).. And the .22 AR-15… The AR-10 is made by Panther Firearms, the .22 is a smith & wessonM&P rifle and the AK-47 is an American made gun.. What is some more gun assault rifles I can buy?

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One list of undocumented foreigners’ confiscated weapons.

" U.S. authorities announced they had seized two homemade bombs, materials for making 33 more, military-style grenades, 26 grenade triggers, large quantities of AK-47 and AR-15 assault rifles, 1,280 rounds of ammunition, silencers, machine gun assembly kits, 300 primers, bulletproof vests, police scanners, sniper scopes, narcotics and cash."

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2006/02/10/1360221.htm

Yahoo censors my questions if I use the legal term "illegal aliens". I had to rephrase the question using the term "undocumented foreigners".

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I got an AK-47 and its an awesome gun. I love it.

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cause i looked it up you can get training on most infantry weapons from the m243 bravo to the m16a2 and the AK-47 and much more they also teach you defensive driving urban warfare basically the same shit you learn in the military . will it be possible to get chosen to be a contractor with just psd training?

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An M4/M16 shooting 5.56 x 45mm, an AK-47 shooting standard round, or an AK-74 shooting standard.
Doesn’t the 5.56 flip on impact and do more damage in the body?

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An example would be if a was a rifleman who was issued an m4, but i wanted to use a AK-47 or a G3. I have seen pictures of the military with different weapons.

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Like fully automatic military weapons. I’m asking this because I have seen alot of youtube videos of americans and they have a like an Ak-47, M4, ect. If there allowed, can they just carry it around, like a someone would do with a handgun. Do they need a special paper saying they can carry it? And what would be the point of even having one?
i am just curios, ty

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I’m ponding this question because as reliable and durable as the Ak-47 is… Its inevitable that this innovative weapon will eventually become obsolete.

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And don’t say that stupid ak-47!

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I know they both use the AK-47 and AK-74, but did/do they use the SKS? i would think so, because it is a pretty cheap gun, pretty reliable, and is an assault rifle, it is close caliber to the AK, almost identical (though the SKS doesnt have a pistol grip, different sights, and just a few slight differences in design) but did they use it? are they still manufactured?

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I am ex-military and own an ak 47 (bought it 8yrs ago) and I love it! I like the idea of not having search and search for the right ammo and know the weapon will always fire no matter what. I also feel that the ak 47 is very unjustly accused of being very inaccurate! I am able to get 1.5 to 2inch shot groups at 100yds. I was watching the Hitler (ummmm) history channel special on the m-16 and man did they play that gun up.They even went so far as to call it the "most powerful assault rifle" so far. I laughed so hard, had to stop the treadmill or would have went flying! Anyway, being prior military I know this is not the case. Every chance we had we were cleaning our m-16s. I thought it was just military discipline but now know that it was that the military’s understanding that if m16s weren’t clean – they may very well jam. Not trying to re-hash the ak47 vs m16 debate was just wondering . Ex or current military only please!
OLD D (1st 15th FA Camp Casey Korea

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Is there anything better than an AK-47 for that sport?

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this is driving me nuts i want an ak-47 with a machined stainless steel receiver and a bull barrel that fires 300 win if possible, but CA wont let me get one.

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Fist of all how many men are in a platoon and how many are in a company? How common is the M240 machine gun in a platoon/company?

And secondly is the M4/M16 and AK-47 both equally loud but with a distinctive sound? And which is louder at a distance?

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i was thinking about this the other day, so figure you are going to want something that can reliably defend you from anything (bears,humans etc.) so it has to be a high powered caliber. second a semi auto rifle( ak-47, ar-15 etc.) need a magazine to function. what if you lose or break that magazine, then you have to load one round at a time, compared to the bolt action rifle that has an internal magazine that cant be lost. and lastly most military rifles were designed with the idea of hand to hand combat in mind, so they can be equipped with bayonets. Just tell me what you think and if you agree or disagree with me

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1. Why did the U.S. drop 2 atomic bombs on Japan?
2. Is the M4/M16 louder than the AK-47?
3. Name the Top 10 _________ (tanks, planes, guns, etc…)?
4. Who would win in a war between _______ and ________ (insert name of any countries you like)?
5. When will I get my W2?
6. Did HAARP cause the Haiti earthquake?
7. Can you add any accessories you want to your rifle when you join the military?
8. Can I be a firefighter in the military?
9. How can I sneak into Area 51?
10. Who has the best special forces?
11. Which branch of service would be best for me?
12. Can I join the military of __________ if I’m a citizen of ___________
13. Insert favorite annoying question here ________________
I can’t believe I forgot "When will World War 3 start and who will be fighting?"
Thanks everyone. It is going to be very hard to choose a Best Answer. I’ll have to sleep on this.

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