K I like military type rifles especially ones that use 7.62 ammo (Ak-47, Sks, FN FAL mosin nagant etc.) I hunt deer and was wondering what rifle like this has large enough ammunition for deer. 7.62 would be alright except i need more range than most of these rifles offer. I read somewhere that the FAL comes in .308 but im not a big fan of .308. the wwii springfield rifle is 30-06 which some people i know like for deer. any suggestions would be awesome thanx.

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This teaching is a stereotype. It may be true for the most part, but some women are learning how to fight. Someone told me that believe it or not, a woman who may become a potential victim relying on men for protection is a very dangerous teaching, no matter how comfortable it may feel to them.
It not always, but may lead them into a position where they could get raped, or taken hostage hoping for the "knight in an army uniform and military weapons and ammo" to come to their rescue.

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Recently, I have begun thinking about how Inefficient America is with its military. For example: A javelin missile costs 170,000 dollars for the missile and launcher. Rpg-7s cost about 00.
A single American Multi purpose patrol boat costs about ,000,000 dollars. My grandfather made Iranian patrol boats out of 2 pieces of metal welded together. They would put RPG squads in them and a fishing motor. Then, they would get in position in the middle of the night and use oars to get near the shore and destroy Iraqi bases (Iran-Iraq war,). This cost about 500-1500 dollars for the boat.
There is a young man who died in the Iraq-Iran war. He was in the army and most his squad mates were dead or injured. He was out of ammo (they sent most troops out without ammo to hold the line) and he witnessed families and helpless children dieing. The Iraqis were approaching with tanks and destroying the town he was in. He had some grenades so went under a tank and put a grenade in the fuel tank, causing the entire tank to explode. So by using a some cheap Iranian grenades he destroyed a British Chieftain tank, which costs about 25 million dollars. Al Quada is killing Americans with Remington rifles every day in Iraq. WTF…. I mean come on America, I know you have money to spent but really?

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I am using M82 before it was banned and the ammo is quite expensive so I sold it.

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I’ve always been curious where the military stores their combat equipment and weapons/ammo. Surely there has to be a locatio nwhere weapons are stored in mass quantity… if so where?

Just reading military novels where they are outfittign themselves and picking thir weapons of choice made me ask, where do they keep these guns?

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i mean we have the largest, most advanced military in the world, we spend more on our national defense than the next 25 largest military in the world and 24 of them are allies…not to mention our citizens are armed to the teeth!! i personally own 4 assault rifles and stockpiles of ammo

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I was reading about how cowboys and lawmen in the past would often have the same caliber for their rifle and pistol so they could use the same ammo for each gun and eliminate confusion. Looking around though it’s pretty hard to match calibers today (ie. I have a 30/30 but can’t find a matching caliber handgun, esp in semi-auto). Seems this thing would be especially useful in places like the military. Truthfully I don’t know much about guns, but why aren’t there more options for using the same ammo for a rifle and a handgun? What do you think is the ideal matching set?

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I don’t care if you take it from a civilian or military perspective, I’m just curious. There are a million m-4′s, AR-15, now there are SCARs, the US military is looking at XM8′s right now, Bushmaster just came out with the ACR, every gun company under the sun has their version of an m4/ar15. If money is no issue, what are the pros and cons of all these straight out of the box? (feel free to add any other 5.56 nato round shooting assault rifles)
Reading the first answer I got maybe I’m not being clear. Yeah no crap about full auto not being legal, I’m not retarded, I’m not 12, I own several firearms of my own. I’m trying to find out the major pros, cons, and differences of all these new assault rifles that are on the market and that are coming out.
Ahem, once again, reading some of the answers, this is not about ammo, this is about guns, thanks
Reading more answers…..I’m NOT asking "What is an assault rifle?" I’m DO KNOW that I cannot get full auto…thanks

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I am active duty military stationed in the great state of New Jersey. Being that this is New Jersey, the state with some, if not thee most ridiculous gun laws, I haven’t even bothered to purchase my firearms here. As I am from NH and still hold my NH state drivers license, I buy my firearms there, as it is one of the easiest states to purchase firearms. My question is though, what do I have to do to legally bring my weapons to NJ? Do I still have to get NJ permits and licenses? I know I have to get a firearms ID just to purchase ammo here in NJ. I mean, my weapons are registered with the FBI, it is not like they are illegal, but I do know NJ has ridiculous laws here and would prefer to not get in trouble for having ‘illegal’ (for NJ) weapons…

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we been looking for some and found some but cant find the ammo for it.

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I am interested in buying an M16 or an AR-15. Where can you get an M16 or an AR15? can you get them at places like cabelas or can you just order them from colt direct to a nearby firearms dealer? what brand of ammo would you get for it? can you buy a military M16 from colt? what do you think is the one best attatchment (acsessory) you could put on it?

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If this happens to our soldiers what is going to happen to hunters that fly to places like Alaska to hunt

As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards. Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That’s where the stupid started.

First, everyone was forced to get off the plane-even though the plane wasn’t refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.

It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren’t loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our Cargo-just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.

So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.

Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.

TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.

Soldier: Why?

TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.

Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.

TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.

Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.

Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security] To top it off, the tsa demanded we all be swabbed for "explosive residue" detection. Everyone failed, [go figure, we just came home from a war zone], because we tested positive for "Gun Powder Residue". Who the F**K is hiring these people?

This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns-but nothing that could have been used as a weapon. Can someone please tell me What the F**K happened to OUR country while we were gone?

Sgt. Mad Dog Tra

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Basically if your ACR or SCAR runs out of ammo and you pull out the SPAS 12 its not camo. Why does the military have a dumb rule like that?

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My friend tells me such places exist where teens train with 22 rifles and pistols with high capacity magazines in combat drills and other things you might find in the Army’s basic training. As they get bigger and stronger, they "graduate" to more realistic training using combat rifles, etc.
They have no intention of joining the army. They plan to defend themselves against "liberals" and other threats to their freedom
Could this be at least partially why the news says ammo sales are way up with no end in sight. To me it sounds like they are becoming their own version of the Taliban.
Do such places exist? Are there just a few nuts? Is it bigger? Do you think the government is aware of what these people are up to? They claim to love America but all I can see is they are traveling down the road of armed insurgents.
What can we do to keep this sort of fringe in check?

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Now as far as the cartridge is concerned and the choice of game being medium game, how can i be sure to choose the right bullet so I don’t end up "limited" to deer only for instance. I know the .270 shoots a flatter trajectory at longer ranges which is good, but the 270 ammo vs the 308 is more expensive.

So could i hunt the same kinds of animals with either or these bullets? and if i wanted to hunt elk or moose which caliber would be the better bet for my ticket? A 30-06 is not for me.

These are the two rifles im currently looking at.

REMINGTON 700 ADL .270 RIFLE
349.99

And

WEATHERBY VG1 .308 RIFLE
399.99

Ive read that both cartiridges can be "limiting". Im referring to these statements.

"I would buy a Remington 700 SPS, but in 308 caliber and not 30-06. No need to limit yourself on the bullet weights available for 30-06 when you can have a more varied number of different styles and bullet weights in 308. "

From JD. A yahoo answerer

Gunsmith/Gun Shop Owner-Dealer
Custom Rifle Builder
Long Range Competition Rifle Team Member 16 years
Firearms Appraiser & Military Firearms Collector
NRA Life Member/Retired LEO
35 Years Firearms Experience

And
Missileman over at thefiringline.com

Who says

"I’d go with the 270, mainly because it may give you a little more flexibility in the future. It would make a much better antelope gun if you ever choose to hunt those, and has probably taken as many elk as any round out there."

Now to rationalize is this a discussion. Is this something similiar to a .38 spl and a .357 discussion in thinking of terms of, experience, shooting, other training factors etc etc? Or what?
Weatherby imports?? Hadnt heard anything on that.. Oh one more thing. Ive also heard Weatherby rifles ONLY shoot Weatherby ammunition? Did i hear this right?

Your answers have been a great addition to all of the information i’ve collected thus far. Kudos to YOU guys!

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I would like to have a .223 but i dont want a AR-15 or military style rifle i would just like a plain classic hunting rifle (because ammo is fairly cheap). If there is a hunting style .223 could you provide me with a model or a link.

Also if the gun is not to expensive thats a +.

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I am ex-military and own an ak 47 (bought it 8yrs ago) and I love it! I like the idea of not having search and search for the right ammo and know the weapon will always fire no matter what. I also feel that the ak 47 is very unjustly accused of being very inaccurate! I am able to get 1.5 to 2inch shot groups at 100yds. I was watching the Hitler (ummmm) history channel special on the m-16 and man did they play that gun up.They even went so far as to call it the "most powerful assault rifle" so far. I laughed so hard, had to stop the treadmill or would have went flying! Anyway, being prior military I know this is not the case. Every chance we had we were cleaning our m-16s. I thought it was just military discipline but now know that it was that the military’s understanding that if m16s weren’t clean – they may very well jam. Not trying to re-hash the ak47 vs m16 debate was just wondering . Ex or current military only please!
OLD D (1st 15th FA Camp Casey Korea

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Mine is the M24 because with magnum ammo and on hardcore, it’s like the off spring of the GOL and M95. Also I like the look of it.

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I would like to have a .223 but i dont want a AR-15 or military style rifle i would just like a plain classic hunting rifle (because ammo is fairly cheap). If there is a hunting style .223 could you provide me with a model or a link.

Also if the gun is not to expensive thats a +.

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I like old military rifles 4rus SKS, 3 Mos.N. M-44, 2 Mos. N 91/30
gun show is this weekend and I’d like to get an Enfield.

What do I look for, and how much should I plan on spending? I’m not to familiar with these, but I would like one. by the way I’m in Indiana.
add how much am I looking at $$$ as far as ammo? I’m not familiar with a forum for that.
Jeff it might see some hunting. thanks! I more just want one cause its a piece of history/collect, take apart toy, pass down to the kid, you know!

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I saw a Steyr 8×56 at a pawn shop for a little over 0 today. I have a 8MM Mauser, and I know the cartridges are different (8×57 vs 8×56), but I was wondering is these rifles are any good. I am beginning to collect old military rifles, and I was wondering if it would be a worthwhile addition.
Also, I’ve seen the guns on a few websites, but the ammo seems to be really scarce. And, a website I saw said that the gun requires a clip to load, and it was not included. Anybody know where I can get a clip?

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So i am going over someones house and its a big yard 4 acres i think, and i don’t want to run around with a pistol that i have to reload all of the time( i’ll be happy with a SMG or something like that, as long has it as good range). here is what i am wondering:
1) Is there a cheap Rifle under 100$ with a scope
2) Or just a Rifle for Around under 75$ and i can buy a scope attachment?
3) Ammo, should i buy some and if i do need some, how much

The stores around my city (Edmonton) is: Walmart, Superstore, Canadian Tire, San Fransisco, any others that will sell them?

P.S – I’ll also be happy with a good long range SMG or something under 75$

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weapons on their standard infantry guns.For example the US military and NATO nations predominantly use the 5.56mm round instead of the7.62mm round.M16 and M9 are preferred and phased out the M14 and G3 rifles.
Joshua the M16 has a burst fire mode that guarantees a kill the M4 has a fully automatic mode. Like you said most sniper guns like the M24 use the 7.62 round
Joshua machineguns are used for cover fire but they do have to be effective.The M240 are seeing more use than the M249. M240 uses the 7.62 round and the M249 5.56.Difference in ammo capacity is 100 vs 200 rounds

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It used to be that 7.62 x 39 was cheaper than .223 is that still true! also can I safely use 5.56mm NATO in a mini 14 I know that a .223 and 5.56mm NATO are the very similar but still different, and that 5.56mm NATO is military rated ammo and .223 Remington is civilian.
So Is the gun very reliable?

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